Feedback on Episode #17 is pouring in. I certainly can't post everything but you never know, yours just may show up. Feel free to make your own comments and share your opinions. The sentences in Red are my comments.

By the way, I'm not editing the emails so if you see a lot of spelling errors - oh well...

 

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What the f*$k is up with this show. Tony has become an obnoxious prick with
the spinal cord of a jelly fish. Last season was kick ass. But as soon as a
show becomes a hit. A few feminists and homo's have to try and make it
better. Its becoming the new "90210". Gimme a break with the divorce sh*t.
How cares? The whole episode that just aired was about pussy's wife wanting a
divorce because he doesn't pay her enough attention (Boo f**kin Hoo). And
Tony trying to sell some over priced German trash to a "Sophia Lauren"
look-a-like.

HBO needs to do the show a favor and get rid of the crap and get back to what
works. Yeah they will still have viewers. But it has gone from the 16 to 40
viewer age range, to the 12 and 26 age range.

So thats my opinon....

- One of the few emails which actually was censored! I agree that the divorce thing was a little too soap-opera like. However I don't agree at ALL with Tony being a Jellyfish. You gotta remember, he was in a totally different environment and culture and he knew no one and essentially had no connections. I actually think he did quite well holding his own. Plus he still said he made double on the cars. It sounded like it's more than he expected to get.


Episode 4 was good, I enjoyed the parts in Italy very much. Pauly
Wallnuts has been one of my favorite characters since the shows inception,
it was nice to see him back to his old wise cracks, we haven't seen that
much dialog from him since the first show. But I missed Silvio. He's as
unique a character as well. Seeing Tony's body language in the car ride
back from the airport raises my suspicion that he knows about Christopher's
drug problem, (something that the show has done a good job in building up
to, I'd add) The show really needs to keep up this trend that 3 and 4 have
given us. I thought 1 and 2 were good ground builders for the new season
but lacked plot.
Episode 5 looks interesting, and as usual I'm looking forward to it.


Definitely missed Anthony Jr. this episode. Also, what happened w/ Meadow between last week and this week regarding the trashed house?! Still, I don't want to complain too much - this show is tops. Paulie had some outstanding lines - it's good to see him with a little more exposure. I think Pussy needs to do some major attitude changes, and I can't blame his wife for wanting to leave. Please - someone tell Tony what Pussy's up to!


I'm an avid watcher and fan of the Sopranos. Recently my 12 year old has
been joining in as a family show because all the kids "at school" are
watching the show. The story and cast are great and we can handle the
language, however, the sexual content is becoming a little too graphic for
young teeanagers. The show has gotten so much publicity, the audience is
becoming younger. PLEASE TRY TO BE A LITTLE MORE DISCREET, MAYBE EVEN
SUGGESTIVE, IN THE SEXUAL CONTENT!
THANK YOU!!

- Remember, this is a Fan Site of The Sopranos. I have nothing to do with HBO and have no input into anything about the show. And also, this is Cable and the show is rated MA - Mature Audiences. I don't think that a 12 year old is considered "mature". Taking away or toning down the language would take away some of the realism and 'rawness' of the show. These guys are in the Mafia, or mob or organized crime - whatever you want to call it. Why water it down? Perhaps if these shows are ever syndicated on regular TV they will have to bleep out the nudity and language. The show would still be good but it wouldn't have the same feel.


Meadow looks great this season. just the way an italian guy would like a girl
to look. richie is without a doubt the scariest character ever on a tv
series. this season is not as funny as last year but it is much darker which
makes it much more interesting. i find myself re-watching the same episode 3
& 4 times & picking out more pieces. i hope this show goes on for years.

- Wow, finally someone has something GOOD to say about Meadow! And about Richie, did you know he was cast to play Tony Soprano before the show began? Yep it's true. He was eventually passed up for James Gandolfini.


Without a doubt, the notion that Pussy's wife wants a divorce is a major
one. Carmella's stuff about "marriage being a sacrament" is just a front;
she, as well as all the Mafia wives, know that a contentious divorce would
result in a lot of family business being brought into the open before a
court. It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes a major issue for the boys
in future episodes; they would probably have her whacked before allowing her
to divorce Pussy.


I don't think that the man in the party store with Pussy is a fed. I get
the feeling that he is from another mob who wants to take over Tony's turf.
He said in another episode (maybe last week) that Pussy has been on the take
since 98 from this other mob and not the fed's. The divorce story is
important because it is showing Carmella that she is not the only one who is
unhappy with her husbands business. Whether or not she will leave Tony
remains to be seen. I bet we will hear more about that towards the end of
the season. Overall with episodes #3 and 4 being pretty good I feel that
the series still has a chance at being a successful one.


This show IS the greatest since the Godfather films. But, I have some
concerns after seeing episode 17...What was up with Meadow and cleaning the
old lady's house after she crashed it? The new show didn't explain where the
last one left off. And, i can't wait to see what Janice's place will be once
the shit gets stirred between her and her mother. I agree with someone who
said that Richie was about the scariest looking creature on the show. I
missed seeing Silvio in this one. Why didn't he get to go to italy with his
palsiosos? I love this show but I wasn't so crazy about this one. I hope
next weeks is better. I don't think Meadow looks good at all. She looks
like she's eaten one too many bowls of pasta since the new series
began....Her face and body look blotted to me. Anthony jr. looks better than
ever. Carm's lines crack me up. Remember last episode when she said that
she couldn't kick Janice out of their house because "It wasn't Christian?"
Now that, was too funny if you all know what I mean.


The pending divorce is crucial because it is forcing Carmella to examine her situation. She tells Pussy's wife
that marriage is a "holy sacrament", but who is she trying to convince of this? Pussy's wife or herself? It appears
that Carmella is trying to rationalize why she stays with Tony. The irony is huge. Carmella refers to the holiness
of marriage yet her husband makes a living killing and stealing, and despite the fact that Carmella speaks of
religious ideology (she also did this in episode 16 when she told Tony that kicking Janice out wouldn't be "Christian"), she seems to love the riches that Tony's not so holy profession brings to the family. Is she a hypocrite? Maybe, but I think its more of a tunnel vision thing. She is trying desperately to focus on the things that are supposed to be good and right because she wants to convince herself she is a good person, but the bad things of which she is very much involved in are inevitably clouding that perspective.

- You're right, the marriage issue which has been an underlying aspect of the show is now being dealt with more openly. Last season Carmela spent time talking with Father Phil about it quite a bit and we got to see how she views marriage. Now it's happening to one of her friends who is actually talking about doing something about it. Carmela knows she's in the same situation and is just living with it. I really thinks she doesn't want Pussy's wife to leave him although the alternative doesn't have a happy ending either.


I think episode No. 17 was great. It gives a good look at how organized
crime isn't just some hoods doing their business in their neighborhood.
I think the second season is shaping up nicely; it's telling its stories
without hitting you over the head with overt, in-your-face writing. I
think some viewers are getting hung up on small things (Meadow's weight,
Pussy's home troubles, and Carmella's lack of involvement, for a few
examples) that are incidental to the overall story line. I think it
shows that mobsters have real lives and seemingly mundane concerns like
all of us. I would be bored if it were like Season 1, and it takes time
to set up characters for future conflicts. I think Janice is a great
character, and Richie looks like he's going to be a great
antagonist--both are question marks and will cause trouble for Tony. I'm
just enjoying how the story goes, and I'm not trying to guess what's
going to happen, because I think we're in for a great ride.

Great site--I come back all the time, especially for your comments as
well as other viewers' comments. It's sad that some viewers are getting
wrapped up in nonsense (again, Meadow's weight, characters' absences,
slow plot lines, domestic scenes, and on and on) because this is a great
show. Keep up the good work.

- You're right on the money here. Most of the complaints I receive always have to do with issues which are trivial and have nothing to do with what the show is intended to be. People don't seem to take into account that this show is supposed to be about the DAILY life and times of a family in the mob/crime business. It's supposed to portray real life situations. So what if Meadow has gained weight! This is NOT Baywatch and the the actors and actresses are not supposed to be models. You also can't compare this show to a movie. A movie is a 2-hour snapshot. It has a beginning and an end. The filming is done in a certian timeframe whether it is two weeks or two years. All of the actors are already cast and they will be there for however long their role calls for. Look at WizeGuys. It covered close to a lifespan of events. The Sopranos is a SERIES which may last two season or it may last 20 seasons. New characters have to be introduced on a regular basis. People may decide to quite the show for whatever reason and unfortunatly paople may die. Nancy Marchand has caner and her future is unknown. I'm not saying people can't find faults with the show and have valid criticisms but don't analyze the show to death and complain about peoples looks or that Janices' 'face is too big'. This is exactly what the show is SUPPOSED to portray.


I'm writing this in response to some of the feedback that was already
posted. First of all, someone teach that first guy how to spell. His
comments were pretty moronic. I like them focusing on the wifes questioning
their marriages. This show is different from other Mafia treatments because
it deals with the everyday family life of mobsters. You can't ignore the
feelings of the wives. I alwyays wonder how Mafia wives can deal with all
of the cheating that their husbands do, even though they never have to worry
about money. (FYI - I'm a guy and I'm not gay).

In response to the person who said HBO should tone down The Sopranos, NO
WAY! The reason this show is so great is that it doesn't have to hold back
like shows on network TV do. To tone it down would take away from the
integrity of the show - Did anyone see that horrible Sammy the Bull movie on
NBC ("Get the heck out of here you big jerk!") That was awful! If you
don't want your kids watching that, don't let them. Don't expect HBO to
change the show because you have no discipline over your children.

- Yep, you're right about the compaints about toning the show down. HBO didn't intend this show to be viewed by 12 year olds. As I stated above, this is a cable show rated MA for Mature Aduiences. The show would not be as realistic without the language. Besides, the show's language is no different than most of the comedy specials HBO has. Have you ever seen any of George Carlin's Comedy Specials? You know, the same guy who plays Mr. Conductor on PBS? Certain shows are developed for network televsion and certain shows are made for cable. I doubt there will ever be a happy medium because what may be offensive to one person may not be to another.

 

 

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